"Wanted a serious internet price, but salesman held us for an hour, then starting bringing in his cronies (i.e., the old-fashioned salesman type hard-sell people). A trade was hindering this deal, and could have been taken out of the equation, instead of trying to minimize its trade-in value so that the total price was higher. In effect, with the trade left out, the dealership wanted at least 29k for the deal (perhaps substantially more as they were just starting the hard sell by numerous salespeople when I said I won't do business like this). This model can be purchased for about 24-25k at other dealerships. Check the internet and call the salesperson if you don't believe me. Larry Miller never gave me the chance to deal honestly because of their hard sell and the fact they wanted 8-10k more for this car than other dealerships. Naturally, they were mad when I walked away from the deal. In sum: Larry Miller dealership was the most dishonest I have ever worked with. This was "